we want to bring in michel gerard, chief economist at idf. a lot of people are written that question today. you say not yet, not until at least what, march? >> very much like peter said, many want more evidence the economy is indeed strong enough that they feel comfortable to pull back a bit because the last thing they want to do is pull back and have to reverse course. they stop asset purchases twice before only to come back in again. they don't want that to happen. december is a tough time to start tapering. a lot of people are on vacation, the market is very thin. the last thing they would want to do is potentially make a move leading to an exaggerated reaction in the bond market because again you have this. it will be a 2014 story. cheryladam: why not the january meeting? is that too soon? speak a lot of people have turned their forecast focus to . you don't have it press conference afterwards. you can always announce the decision to start doing press conferences after every meeting and that would put january into play. between the leader